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		<title>By: Bread Baker&#8217;s Apprentice Challenge: Italian Bread &#8212; Pinch My Salt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bread Baker&#8217;s Apprentice Challenge: Italian Bread &#8212; Pinch My Salt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to be commended for getting to the bread at all with everything going on!

Reading your description, I think one thing that specifically may have gone against your scoring was the lack of steam. When you put the loaves into a very hot oven, even one without stones, the first thing that&#039;s going to bake up is, naturally, the crust. Without steam, the crust will set very early and become crispy and inflexible. With steam, however, there&#039;s still heat but the dough remains somewhat pliable and stretchy, so although the insides can still warm up and expand, the outside isn&#039;t binding it and still allows the slashes to expand and widen.

Of course, the slashes also need to be bold and definitive; you may well have done that though but thwarted your effort by skipping the steam.

This was one of, if not &quot;the&quot; best breads we&#039;ve made from the BBA so far, IMHO. I&#039;d definitely be rooting for a second go at it when you&#039;re a tad less pressed for attention.

Hope you&#039;re settling in nicely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to be commended for getting to the bread at all with everything going on!</p>
<p>Reading your description, I think one thing that specifically may have gone against your scoring was the lack of steam. When you put the loaves into a very hot oven, even one without stones, the first thing that&#8217;s going to bake up is, naturally, the crust. Without steam, the crust will set very early and become crispy and inflexible. With steam, however, there&#8217;s still heat but the dough remains somewhat pliable and stretchy, so although the insides can still warm up and expand, the outside isn&#8217;t binding it and still allows the slashes to expand and widen.</p>
<p>Of course, the slashes also need to be bold and definitive; you may well have done that though but thwarted your effort by skipping the steam.</p>
<p>This was one of, if not &#8220;the&#8221; best breads we&#8217;ve made from the BBA so far, IMHO. I&#8217;d definitely be rooting for a second go at it when you&#8217;re a tad less pressed for attention.</p>
<p>Hope you&#8217;re settling in nicely!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn @ Pete Eatemall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn @ Pete Eatemall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a good slasher...but the bread always tastes good! Your loaves look great. I hope to get to Kaiser rolls and Lavash crackers this week to feel caught up but the beach is calling - you should so go to the pool! Happy Baking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a good slasher&#8230;but the bread always tastes good! Your loaves look great. I hope to get to Kaiser rolls and Lavash crackers this week to feel caught up but the beach is calling &#8211; you should so go to the pool! Happy Baking!</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you have a lot going on in your life right now!  If I were you I would be on the pool float with the little pink canopy drinking daiquiris. 

I can relate with spending too much time and money at one store.  Bed Bath and Beyond just opened up in our city and I feel like I live there!

I had to laugh at your scary biga!  That took either a great leap of faith or just sheer desperation to use that thing.  In your case, I suspect it was desperation.  

The whole slashing thing has got me scratching my head too.  I also wish PR would come to my kitchen and demonstrate the proper technique.  I think Daniel is correct in saying that the dough can not be overproofed and that you must do it with conviction.  I guess that&#039;s true for anything you do in life!

I enjoyed reading your post.  Glad the bread turned out wonderful despite all you have going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you have a lot going on in your life right now!  If I were you I would be on the pool float with the little pink canopy drinking daiquiris. </p>
<p>I can relate with spending too much time and money at one store.  Bed Bath and Beyond just opened up in our city and I feel like I live there!</p>
<p>I had to laugh at your scary biga!  That took either a great leap of faith or just sheer desperation to use that thing.  In your case, I suspect it was desperation.  </p>
<p>The whole slashing thing has got me scratching my head too.  I also wish PR would come to my kitchen and demonstrate the proper technique.  I think Daniel is correct in saying that the dough can not be overproofed and that you must do it with conviction.  I guess that&#8217;s true for anything you do in life!</p>
<p>I enjoyed reading your post.  Glad the bread turned out wonderful despite all you have going on.</p>
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		<title>By: AnneMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnneMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I wish Peter would come into the kitchen and show you how do something, like the slashing.  They look delicious.</description>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the crust on your bread. I wish you had a crumb shot because I am dying to know how they looked on the inside.

I also had a similar experience with my Italian bread with regards to the slashing, and when I re-did them they were awesome. I also sort of left my biga in the fridge for a week before using, and it was still fine.

For slashing, you need the dough to not be overproofed, have good surface tension, and make the cuts with full conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the crust on your bread. I wish you had a crumb shot because I am dying to know how they looked on the inside.</p>
<p>I also had a similar experience with my Italian bread with regards to the slashing, and when I re-did them they were awesome. I also sort of left my biga in the fridge for a week before using, and it was still fine.</p>
<p>For slashing, you need the dough to not be overproofed, have good surface tension, and make the cuts with full conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: Frieda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frieda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your loaves look beautiful!  I can hear the crackling when I use my baking stone, but not my baking sheet.  You are right, a deeper slash will open up your loaves a little more.
I believe the Italian crust is a tighter crumb because of the milk...I got the same results that you described.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your loaves look beautiful!  I can hear the crackling when I use my baking stone, but not my baking sheet.  You are right, a deeper slash will open up your loaves a little more.<br />
I believe the Italian crust is a tighter crumb because of the milk&#8230;I got the same results that you described.</p>
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